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And you're right, Spike and Buffy were clearly shown to have a deep, meaningful I can't remember the exact wording, but I remember when Willow told Spike . I don't understand what is Spike doing in this comic anyway, his appearance serves no purpose. I think that played out in their initial meet up. Yes they do meet again. I think that it happens toward the end of Season 8 in the comics. Buffy apparently knew Spike was alive all along, After. Buffy & Spike's relationship hits its final dead end as the epic story of a Over the course of Dark Horse Comics and Joss Whedon's "Buffy The It was one of the first things we decided to do with Season 9, and how it would.
Is it maybe the end of the first act of Season 9? This story does make for a weird breaking point, you're right. I didn't think of it as the end of the first act, but this Season will continue to barrel along with very distinct arcs and changes constantly.
One of the things that Buffy fans are less than happy about is that they're seeing less of the main cast -- the core four -- but it's really because everybody's in a weird place, and things are changing rapidly for them. With this issue, there's the idea of the robot and the pregnancy ending, which is something Joss brought in early on. It was one of the first things we decided to do with Season 9, and how it would put Buffy off kilter and put her in a new place was a big part of this whole first half of Season 9.
And with the relationship with Spike, we didn't want to spend all those issues retreading stuff that had gone on before with the character. So some people are saying, "Once more we're seeing Spike say goodbye to Buffy," but it's a little different this time.
And I think soon people will see how different it is as his series rolls out. I want things to change for the characters and continue to change in a real personal way.
I think this five-issue arc here did a lot of that. It set a lot of things in motion even as it resolved a lot of stuff set up at the end of Season 8. But it also opens a new conflict, which is always the idea. We start out with a scene between Buffy and I'm not sure what to call her. Back in issue 5, Buffy had a dream, and the dream was really significant. Karl Moline drew it, and there was a lot in there including the moment where Buffy saw the primal Slayer -- the original Slayer.
And this Slayer kept telling her, "You're not the Slayer. Her self doubt is really high. But it was also the first clue that she was not the Slayer. She wasn't even a girl. She was a robot. So the scene here between Buffy and the primal Slayer is her remembering that dream and making the connection.
We also get more of Simone's plans and what she's been working toward for quite a while.
She's always been somebody who's more militaristic and looking to up the level of combat in the fight against vampires, and having her in this story reminds us that there's rarely a lot of gunplay and kind of real world violence in Buffy. Is that something you'd discussed with Joss in terms of what the line is for either the characters in their world or for the writers crafting these stories?
There are a bunch of reasons, and while I'm often put into the position where I'm speaking for Joss, I don't want to speak for him on this one. For me personally, I think guns are really bad drama. I think they're terrible for drama because they're so absolute in their problem-solving technique.
If you take a bullet, you take a bullet. I think that stops the story and solves the problem in too easy a way. I think it's way better to have a story focused on people.
If you're going to have physical action, it's more interesting to have them fight in different ways. It's really cute in a Tarantino movie to see a Mexican standoff with everybody pointing guns at each others' heads, but once one person pulls the trigger, everybody pulls the trigger, and then everyone's dead.
To me, that's less interesting. Certainly guns have their place in storytelling and certain kinds of fiction, but if everybody's going to be fighting all the time -- which is part of the premise of Buffy, that there's fighting a lot of the time -- then if everyone uses guns, there will be a lot of bodies dropping everywhere.
So I think that's bad drama. But for Buffy personally, I think it's more of a moral thing. Though, that's a shady argument to try and speak for. We also get a surprising turn in the story of Dowling this month as the police officer confronts his new role in this world of vampires. So often in "Buffy," we get a big action beat followed by a big emotional beat, and with Dowling, we've been following action beats for a while.
Now he's offered the chance to lead a task force within the police against vampires, but he's looking to reject that in favor of almost vigilanteism.
Do you think that in this world, to a certain extent once you cross over into the world of vamps, it's almost impossible to go back into "normal" society? I think that's partly it. That's what I was thinking in writing this, at least. The irony is that I kind of worked myself into a position where I felt it would be impossible for Dowling to continue as a cop and continue the work that he now sees needs to be done. It's partly the trauma from seeing his partner killed -- or worse considering what happened to her after being killed -- and so the work he does now doesn't follow this logical path that fits with police work.
But when we talked it through, we felt that Dowling does need to remain with the force. So they need to make him an offer he can't refuse. I took a class in college with a professor I really loved named Barry Glassner.
It was a class in hardboiled detective fiction, and because of my interests, we ended up talking about how hardboiled detective fiction slams up against the supernatural. And in many ways, the traditions of the detective story just don't work with a horror story. Now, I think they can and often they do, but in many ways, those two ideas don't want to fit together.
So thinking of a cop who has to stay a cop and fill out a bunch of paperwork while also fighting monsters, there's too much contradiction there. There's too much discrepancy. So I think it made sense for Dowling to think here that he can't do what Buffy does. He can't fight these things he's seen as a cop.
So he needed another solution, but then the boss feels they need to deal with this stuff and he's the one who's got to do it. On the total flipside from that real-world kind of talk, we have Spike and Andrew attacking with the bugs. Euphoric with his newfound vampiric abilities, he adopted the poses and trappings of a cultural rebel, affecting a working class East London accent and embracing impulsiveness and extreme violence.
He adopted the nom de guerre "Spike" based on his habit of torturing people with railroad spikes — possibly prompted by criticism of his poetry: He had a strained relationship with Drusilla's sire Angelus, who continued a sexual relationship with her despite Spike's strong disapproval.
Angelus regarded killing as an art, not a sport, and killed for the sheer act of evil; Spike did it for amusement and the rush. The enmity between Spike and Dracula was explored in the comic series Spike vs. Dracula, in which their mutual hatred is caused when Spike, along with Darla and Drusilla, slaughtered the Romani gypsy tribe who had cursed their patriarch, Angelus, with a soul, although it is unclear if either Spike or Drusilla knew precisely why Darla was so angry with the tribe.
That clan unknown to Spike was favored by Dracula and he sought revenge for their deaths.
Spike later mentions in a conversation with Riley Finn, "Dracula? Spike also notes that Dracula's fame has done more damage to vampires than any Slayer, since it made their weaknesses more widely known.
At some point post, Billy Idol allegedly "stole" Spike's look and made it famous as his own as revealed in Season Seven's " Sleeper "; see "Appearance" below ; Spike's thoughts on this are unrecorded.
Inasmuch as Buffy knew of the "theft" as of "Sleeper," Spike presumably shared the detail with her in an undepicted moment. Spike's flashback appearances, in chronological order, include: Lies My Parents Told Me 2nd flashback: In England, William, pre-Spike, tends to his ailing mother Anne. InWilliam is rejected by Cecily and sired by Drusilla, with whom he immediately falls in love. Lies My Parents Told Me 3rd and 4th flashbacks: InWilliam sires his mother Anne, who, as a vampire, turns against him, forcing him to destroy her.
Destiny series of flashbacks: InDrusilla introduces William to her sire Angelus. Although the two become fast friends, they later clash when William discovers Angelus making love with Drusilla. Angelus, informing William that when one is a vampire "you can take what you want, have what you want, but nothing is yours," fights William for the first time.
The Girl in Question 1st flashback: InSpike and Angelus are imprisoned by the mysterious Immortal, who seduces Drusilla and Darla in their absence.
Following this incident, Angel parts company with the group, and the other three vampires resume their travels without him. Angel, still ensouled, briefly reunites with the group; when Spike and Drusilla, neither of whom seem aware that Angel is ensouled, boast of Spike's deed, Angel pretends to be impressed but is actually disgusted.
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Darla ultimately rejects Angel because he can no longer bring himself to kill innocents, and Angel again leaves the group. Precisely what Spike and Drusilla make of these developments between their "elders" is unrevealed. At some point over the next few decades, Spike and Drusilla part company with Darla, and Spike's reputation for bloodshed and chaos eventually rivals even that of Angelus.
Why We Fight series of flashbacks: InSpike, temporarily adventuring without Drusilla, and two other vampires are abducted by Nazi agents onto a Nazi sub. Angel, working for the US government, helps Spike seize control of the sub, and the two escape and then part ways. As far as is known, this is Spike and Angel's last meeting prior to the events of School Hard in The Girl in Question 2nd flashback: Spike and Drusilla visit Italy. Lies My Parents Told Me 1st flashback: These are Spike's last depicted activities preceding his arrival in Sunnydale, California.
Sunnydale[ edit ] Spike first arrives in Sunnydale in the second season of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, in the episode " School Hard ", accompanied by Drusilla. Throughout Season Two, Spike and Dru are the canon's most prominent example of affection between vampires, displaying the humanity and intricacies of vampire relationships.
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Spike was initially conceived as a disposable villain to be killed off, but proved so popular with fans that Joss Whedon decided to merely injure him instead,  in the episode " What's My Line, Part Two ", in which Spike is crushed by a collapsing pipe organ and left paralyzed. Spike's first appearance in the episode " School Hard " Spike and Drusilla are major enemies of Buffy for much of the second season.
They arrive shortly after Drusilla is seriously weakened by an angry mob in Pragueas recounted in the canon comic book The Problem with Vampires. Spike is a devoted caretaker to Drusilla in her weakened condition, and initially hopes the Hellmouth 's energy can help restore her strength. He reunites with Angel and seems genuinely pleased to see him, but is disgusted to find that Angel has a soul whether or not Spike in fact knew that Angel's acquisition of a soul is why he left the group nearly a century before has never been made clear and is in love with the current Slayer, Buffy Summers.
Spike decides to ally himself with Buffy against Angelus; as he explains to Buffy, in addition to wanting Drusilla back, he also wants to "save the world": I'm going to destroy the world.
That's just tough guy talk. Strutting around with your friends over a pint of blood. The truth is, I like this world. You've got — the dog racingManchester Unitedand you've got people: It's all right here. But then someone comes along with a vision, with a real passion for destruction. Angel could pull it off.
Goodbye Piccadilly, farewell Leicester bloody Square. He kidnaps Willow and Xander, and forces Willow to conduct a love spell for him to make Drusilla love him again, even coercing Buffy and Angel to help him in exchange for the safe return of their friends. The excitement of a brawl with the Mayor's vampires helps him see that Drusilla left him because he had begun to go soft; he resolves to win her back by torturing her until she likes him again, and tells Buffy where to find Willow and Xander.
He also tells Buffy and Angel that they can never be friends because of their love for one another. He finds it and attacks Buffy in daylight, but she wrests the ring from his finger and sends it to Angel.
Spike goes to Los Angeles, and hires a vampire named Marcus to torture Angel in order to get the ring, but Marcus takes the ring himself and Angel finally destroys it. After being captured by The Initiative and implanted with a cerebral microchip which punishes him with debilitating pain whenever he harms or attempts to harm any non-demon life forms he initially assumes it works the same with anything livingSpike turns to the Scooby Gang for protection, bartering his knowledge of the Initiative.
Though he still spars with Buffy, provided he has no real intent on harming her His inability to bite is comically compared to impotencemuch to Spike's constant humiliation;  in " Doomed ", he attempts to commit suicide by staking himself at Xander's house, but is stopped by Willow and Xander. Eventually, he inadvertantly discovers that he can harm demons and enthusiastically joins a fight with this knowledge, showing that he's less concerned about what side he's fighting on than fighting for the thrill of it.
In Season Five, after some erotic dreams, Spike becomes aware to his horror that he has fallen in love with Buffy. When Buffy rejects his advances, Spike attempts to prove his love by kidnapping her so that she can witness him killing Drusilla for her, to little avail; in her disgust, Buffy un-invites him from her house something she had not bothered to do in almost three years since their alliance against Angelus and alienates him from the group.
Though Buffy is disgusted by this, her hostility towards him fades considerably when she learns that Spike refused, even under intense torture, to reveal the identity of The Key to Glorynearly laying down his life to protect Buffy's sister Dawn.
Buffy is moved by this unexpected loyalty and kisses him, saying she will not forget what he has done. After Buffy is resurrected at the beginning of Season Six, she is despondent and detached from her friends. During this time, her relationship to Spike deepens and she is able to talk to him about things she feels she cannot share with the Scooby Gang.
She gets drunk with Spike, and calls him "a neutered vampire who cheats at kitten poker. Buffy threatens to kill Spike if he ever tells anyone about their relationship.
Both are unsatisfied; Buffy is ashamed of her dark desires, while Spike obsessively craves the love, trust, and affection that she is unwilling to give. When she refuses him, he grows desperate and unsuccessfully tries to rape her. This is seen in his reactions to reliving the memory of the event while discussing his subsequent mood with Clem, who has come by with hot wings to hang out.
Spike heads to a remote area of Africa, where he seeks out a legendary demon shaman and undergoes the Demon Trials, a series of grueling physical challenges. Proving his worthiness by surviving the trials, Spike earns his soul back. But under influence of the First Evil 's hypnotic trigger, Spike unknowingly starts killing again. Upon discovering what he has done, he begs Buffy to stake him, but she refuses and takes him into her house, telling him she has seen him change.
They spend three nights together, one of which Spike describes as the best night of his life, just holding her. In the final battle inside the Hellmouth, Spike, wearing a mystical amulet, sacrifices himself to destroy the Turok-Han and close the Hellmouth.
He is slowly incinerated in the process, but not before Buffy tells him "I love you. In dying to save the world, he becomes a Champion. I've been alive a bit longer than you. And dead a lot longer than that. I've seen things you couldn't imagine — done things I'd prefer you didn't. I don't exactly have a reputation for being a thinker. I follow my blood. Which doesn't exactly rush in the direction of my brain.
I've made a lot of mistakes. A lot of wrong bloody calls. A hundred plus years and there's only one thing I've ever been sure of. Oz gives Angel the ring who then hides it in the sewer, just as he is about to leave for another case he is ambushed by Spike who hits him with a wooden plank, Angel defeats Spike but Spike warns him that he will get the ring one way or another.
Angel takes precaution and goes on a manhunt for Spike, Angel finally finds him, chases him through the alley, and corners him only to fall into Spike's trap. Spike captures Angel and hires a vampire named Marcus to torture Angel until he tells him where the ring is. After a while Spike gets bored of waiting so he goes to Angel's apartment to find the ring and leaving Marcus to torture Angel, he gets to the apartment only to find Cordelia and Doyle aiming at him with weapons and demanding to know where Angel is.
Spike reveals Angel's location and tells them that the only way he will release Angel is if they find him the ring. Cordelia and Doyle find the ring in the sewer and head straight to Spike. When they arrive at the location they find out that Spike had lied about releasing Angel. Taking precautions however, they then throw the ring away and just as Spike was about to retrieve it, Oz bursts through the wall in his van and rescues Angel. Spike looks for the ring but finds out that Marcus took it.
Spike begins smashing Marcus's things and shouting about how he is going to work alone from now on until a hole that was in the ceiling lets sunlight in and sets the back of his hair on fire. Despite his apparent death at the end of Buffy's final season, Spike returns in the fifth and final season of the spin-off series Angel. Later he becomes corporeal, due to a mysterious gift that arrives at the office of Wolfram and Hart. Soon afterward he is kidnapped by the psychotic Slayer Danawho believes he was responsible for kidnapping and torturing her as a child.
Spike defeats Angel, but the prophecy remains ambiguous the Cup of Torment is revealed as a fake containing Mountain Dew. What freaking bizarro world did I wake up in? In the end, they fail to catch up with her.
The blonde glimpsed in Rome is later revealed to be a decoy Buffy, set up by Andrew Wellswho had researched the history between Angel, Spike and The Immortal, and thought the idea would be "hilarious".
He then spends what might be his last hours on Earth returning to his mortal roots as a frustrated poet, triumphantly knocking them dead figuratively in an open mic poetry slam at a bar. After single-handedly literally, he held the baby in one hand and a sword in the other rescuing an infant and destroying the Fell Brethren, Spike joins Angel, Illyria, and a badly wounded Charles Gunn in the alley behind the Hyperion as the series draws to an end, preparing to incur the apocalyptic wrath of the Senior Partners, as a way of going out in a blaze of glory that will probably cost their lives.
Literature[ edit ] Spike appears significantly in a number of canonical Expanded Universe literature concurrent with and subsequent to the television series, including both Buffy and Angel comic books.
Many of these novels and comic books concern Spike's backstory in the periods between the events shown in flashbacks in the television series.
After Buffy finished inSpike appeared in a comic story from the canonical Tales of the Vampires series. Christopher Golden's novel Spike and Dru: The short story "Voodoo Lounge" from the collection Tales of the Slayer is a sequel to this novel. Golden's novel, Blackoutis truer to the series' chronology by depicting Spike's fatal encounter with Slayer Nikki Wood in